Collaboration…

Hall and Oates Fight…

This came through Variety Magazine. An article on a restraining order Hall filed against Oates and why. All copyright and collaboration related.

One quote from the article…
“According to the AP report, what it is that Hall can’t go for is Oates’ desire to sell his share of the duo’s Whole Oats Enterprises to the investment firm, which already purchased a “significant” stake in their catalog rights 16 years ago. Hall has indicated that he regrets not owning all his publishing.”

Now back as the pandemic started, we started and then stopped a collaboration class. Ended up we could not do it as intended for a number of legal reasons. It is the last thing we have to clean up from the pandemic slowdowns. (I will be contacting the few of you who are signed up still for the first attempt.)

The new Collaboration class will start January 2nd will include:

The five major methods of collaboration in fiction (and a few really bad ways.)
Collaboration agreements and what they need to contain.
Collaboration copyright (why can Oates sell Hall’s share of the work.)
Collective vs Collaborative
Shared Worlds
And so much more.

And yes, Everything Subscribers will get this in the subscription.

And a point of interest on the sales. Except for this traditional “everyone is doing it sale,” we are only doing sales now when we start up a new Shopify store, and we have no new store on our schedule clear into next summer. So no more workshop sales planned for some time after Tuesday.

One Comment

Steve Perry

November 26, 2023 at 10:53 am

It is why everything ought to be spelled out in a contract; and why, maybe, that the publishing contract might be separate from one signed by collaborators for that aspect of it.

I confess, I never saw the need for a collaborator’s contract. Those with whom I have co-written things were family or friends, and like prenuptial agreements, I never considered it.

But: People veer away from each other, fall out, and the happy rock group who loved each other and shared everything equally sometimes changes into something less beautiful.

Happend to me. My collaborator on a buncha projects and I weren’t speaking when he died.

I believe that Dean wrote a piece for the SFWA publication many years back speaking to this. I recall something to the effect of, you should write a contract in such as way that it deals with what happens if you and the nice publisher who bought your book both drop dead and your heirs all hate each other …

Steve Perry

November 26, 2023 at 10:53 am

It is why everything ought to be spelled out in a contract; and why, maybe, that the publishing contract might be separate from one signed by collaborators for that aspect of it.

I confess, I never saw the need for a collaborator’s contract. Those with whom I have co-written things were family or friends, and like prenuptial agreements, I never considered it.

But: People veer away from each other, fall out, and the happy rock group who loved each other and shared everything equally sometimes changes into something less beautiful.

Happend to me. My collaborator on a buncha projects and I weren’t speaking when he died.

I believe that Dean wrote a piece for the SFWA publication many years back speaking to this. I recall something to the effect of, you should write a contract in such as way that it deals with what happens if you and the nice publisher who bought your book both drop dead and your heirs all hate each other …